Board Thread:Special Admin Messages/@comment-35439862-20180820022450

And we agreed to end all hostilities. These terms will be put into effect:


 * 1) EnderChas will be unbanned and have his repent trial returned. R543 will also be unbanned.
 * 2) The MCCW and RCCW will do their best to end all hostilities towards eachother.
 * 3) Ignoring other users is not always the answer. Try to discuss what they are angry about and try to find things out from their point of view.

This is to end all future hostilities and make sure that we don't fight another pointless and stupid war that will only end in chaos.

What lies below is the raw chat log copy/pasted from the JAPTW Live Chat. I won't be able to fix it right at the moment, as I am a bit busy.

6:33RCCWRebelledAdminHello 6:34Finalcutter55Hello. I didn't expect to be here this evening. 6:34RCCWRebelledAdminSame 6:35Finalcutter55...So, I know that you and me don't want another Chas War. 6:35RCCWRebelledAdminYes 6:35Finalcutter55I almost went insane during that war alone. It was absolutely dreadful. 6:35RCCWRebelledAdminI am feeling the same as well recently 6:35Finalcutter55Oh? 6:35RCCWRebelledAdminI can not stand the current drama 6:36Finalcutter55Well, technically you declared the war, yes? 6:36RCCWRebelledAdminYes 6:36Finalcutter55Mhm. Why? What's so important about Chas' unban that's worth all this drama? 6:37RCCWRebelledAdminI felt that the MCCW staff would not be willing to meet my demands, I wanted Chas a repent trial though I felt like there would be a lull where I would be ignored so I went to war 6:37Finalcutter55War isn't the answer. This is FANDOM, a place where people can share their interests and share stories and thoughts. FANDOM isn't about war, it's about having fun. 6:38RCCWRebelledAdminUnderstandable 6:38Finalcutter55The RCCW and MCCW are acting like they're countries with their own beliefs and laws. They're both quarrelling about them like they're children. 6:40RCCWRebelledAdminThat does somewhat make sense, if that is so, I would consider Minefictions to act in a similar way 6:40Finalcutter55Mhm. Doesn't this feel like a war about Capitalism vs Communism? 6:40RCCWRebelledAdminDuring the Chas War, it did 6:40Finalcutter55Yeah. It felt like an actual Cold War. Chas' ban did come completely out of nowhere. I didn't expect some of our admins to all of a sudden ban Chas because of... well... I have no idea why he was banned. My best guess is because of their self-righteousness and their past offences. Chas' past offences 6:42RCCWRebelledAdminThe only reasons I have heard was during his time as Content Moderator 6:42Finalcutter55Okay. 6:42RCCWRebelledAdminAnd most of them could be resolved through negotiations, instead of banning Chas at the time. 6:43Finalcutter55Agreed. But negotiations didn't happen. I would also like to add in that it was mostly my fault. I did bring up Chas' offences and extend his trial to infinity without consulting anyone. 6:44RCCWRebelledAdminI can understand where you are coming from. 6:44Finalcutter55Then it evolved. It kept growing and growing, now we're here. 6:45RCCWRebelledAdminI did not really like that the trial was forced to end over the fact some people disagreed with Chas and referred to his war actions. Also, the trial was declared to end on August 24th, but some users like Frown decided that it not take place and ended it without consulting 6:46Finalcutter55Exactly. Those are the people who dislike Chas. Those feelings are dragged down from the Chas War, where Chas did quite unforgivable things. 6:48RCCWRebelledAdminEventually, that dragged on and here we are now, I think times would go as normally if Frown did not do that. 6:48Finalcutter55Yeah. So I think it's time we end hostilities. 6:48RCCWRebelledAdminAlso, most of the offenses of Chas told by some admins are mostly what he did during the war, not as a mod True 6:48Finalcutter55Human beings can only take in so much stress. I want the two wikis to remain fun, and not quarrel over their differences. I want people to write stories and feel excited without the thought of conflict or fear. 6:50RCCWRebelledAdminSame, I hope that in future peace talks, we learn from the consequences of creating any voids that push us down, such as users getting banned. And not getting a chance of an unban 6:50Finalcutter55Yeah. But everyone does wrong things. 6:51RCCWRebelledAdminYes 6:51Finalcutter55So, that brings up a question. What will we do about Chas' ban? That's the main reason the war was caused. 6:52RCCWRebelledAdminI think that we should not permaban him, and that is the most obvious thing to point out first 6:52Finalcutter55Understandable. 6:53RCCWRebelledAdminThere should be voids filled instead of letting them be unsolved. 6:53Finalcutter55Yes. We need to stop holding grudges and get along. I would unban Chas, but I'm worried that the people of the MCCW would react badly. 6:54RCCWRebelledAdminThat is true, I also think we need to get rid of cold war mentality, I think it has done more harm than good 6:55Finalcutter55Agreed. Future hostilities could possibly end our two wikis. 6:56RCCWRebelledAdminThis conflict almost frustrated me. People were starting to blame me on my own wiki and put pressure on me 6:56Finalcutter55Ouch. That's another thing. Your people aren't happy with the descisions you're making. 6:57RCCWRebelledAdminI had made threats due to uncertainty over that, and I eventually got here. 6:57Finalcutter55The declaration of war probably drove them to worry. 6:58RCCWRebelledAdminAnd a lot urged me not to 6:58Finalcutter55Exactly. 6:59RCCWRebelledAdminTo be fair, if something like this happens in the future and there is no resolve, it could create mass uncertainty and create a huge drama 6:59Finalcutter55Exactly my point. It's getting a little late for me. I think we should start discussing peace terms. 6:59RCCWRebelledAdminOkay 6:59Finalcutter55And pretend this war never happened. First being, should Chas be unbanned? 7:00RCCWRebelledAdminI have already suffered enough at home so yes. 7:01Finalcutter55Okay... I guess I could return his temporary repent trial that ends at August 25th. 7:01RCCWRebelledAdminI will accept it 7:01Finalcutter55Great. 7:01RCCWRebelledAdminHowever, do not manipulate the date if people inside your wiki tell you to or remove it Cause we already know 7:02Finalcutter55Second being that The MCCW and RCCW should get along in the future. How though? 7:02RCCWRebelledAdminI think we should both stop worrying about conflict 7:02Finalcutter55Okay. 7:02RCCWRebelledAdminTo be fair, both wiki's have been damaged in a certain way over wars that happened in the past 7:02Finalcutter55Absolutely. We should also stop thinking about it. Maybe any user that suggests war should be punished. 7:04RCCWRebelledAdminMCCW still has had cold war mentality and drama due to past incidents like these, RCCW has also suffered consequences in extreme ways Yes I think we need to negotiate instead of cause war cause it creates more problems and consequences 7:05Finalcutter55Yes. So, I guess Chas should have his repent trial returned. 7:05RCCWRebelledAdminI believe so 7:06Finalcutter55I'll make a thread about this. 7:06RCCWRebelledAdminOkay 7:06Finalcutter55Is there anything else we should add? 7:06RCCWRebelledAdminNo ignoring new public enemies and instead of starting conflict with them, talk to them and see what they demand 7:07Finalcutter55Sounds fair. But publoc enemies are different than other public enemies. Some repeatedly attack with no reason. 7:08RCCWRebelledAdminYea, some may want to attack into oblivion I would give them the opportunity to talk 7:08Finalcutter55Yes. ...I can't spend all evening on my tech though. So, is there anything else? 7:10RCCWRebelledAdminExaggerating past threats, such as listing things they did that deserve a ban listing things they did in the past 7:10Finalcutter55Okay... So, Let's recap. 7:10RCCWRebelledAdminThats about it 7:11Finalcutter55okay Let's recap. 7:11RCCWRebelledAdminOkay 7:11Finalcutter551. Chas will recieve a repent trial ending on August 25th 7:11RCCWRebelledAdminWe have agreed on that 7:11Finalcutter552. MCCW and RCCW are to cease all hostilities with eachother. 7:12RCCWRebelledAdminCertainly yes 7:12Finalcutter553. Ignoring isn't always the answer. Talking is. 7:12RCCWRebelledAdminYes 7:12Finalcutter55...So, are we done here? 7:12RCCWRebelledAdminPretty much yes 7:13Finalcutter55Alright, so can we both leave with these terms put into effect? 7:13RCCWRebelledAdminYes I will also unban MCCW admins and remove the War HQ wiki 7:13Finalcutter55Alright. I guess I'll be on my way. 7:13RCCWRebelledAdminOkay 7:13Finalcutter55I'll unban you was well. Have a good evening. 7:13RCCWRebelledAdminSee ya. 