Board Thread:News and Announcements/@comment-33008074-20180223175300

Recently, a user from Minefictions reached out to me and asked to talk with me about the current state of both wikis.

The transcript of our talk is below.

Mod started the chat 10 minutes ago

Blitz entered for the first time 7 minutes ago

Blitz: Alright, I'm here.

Mod: hello

Mod: still gonna be slow but just so we can communicate quicker

Blitz rolled a die. The die showed: 6

Blitz: just playing with cmds

Mod: that's fine

Mod: jsyk this isn't meant to be hostile or to convince you to shorten Chas's ban or anything of that sort, but a civil conversation is long overdue

Blitz: Alright.

Blitz: So, where should we start?

Mod: well

Mod: i know i came into this late but im more neutral than anything because, gonna be brutally honest here, both sides have done really shitty stuff and done a poor job of handling this

Mod: so im not strictly a ""chas supporter"" but i would be flayed alive going to mccp

Blitz: Yeah, MCCP is torn up over some of our best users retiring.

Mod: yep

Mod: on that subject

Blitz: I'm also somewhat worried about Roblox Creepypasta Wiki.

Blitz: Chas has gotten very close to starting a war against us.

Mod: UHHh they're aware of why fico got banned right bc no offense they're being extremely melodramatic and screaming for revenge

Blitz: And tensions have grown high.

Mod: i haven't looked much at roblox creepypasta wiki

Blitz: I don't think they're a threat, at least for now.

Mod: everybody there is treating this like chas is at fault which he has done stuff but for this single situation fico got banned bc he told chas to kill himself, that's a pretty severe move to make

Blitz: I think fico kinda overreacted.

Blitz: But it is somewhat justified.

Mod: yea he did

Mod: well

Blitz: I mean, chas has caused a lot of trouble for us.

Blitz: or at least his followers have.

Mod: ye and i understand that, but i really don't understand why he's blaming this on the person he did the action against

Blitz: But chas did request for his global blocking.

Blitz: I talked with chas, and he said he didn't think he would retire.

Blitz: He's changed his mind, but another user. DekuDesu, is thinking of retiring.

Mod: that's because the fandom user said it was against fandom policy and a bannable offense in that thread and now everybody is freaking out?

Blitz: Fico is a respected user.

Mod: not to start an argument just stating what I've noticed

Blitz: And they're mad that chas would get him blocked.

Mod: yea and i get that but the fact they're mad at him for getting him blocked is entirely missing the point of why, besides that block was only for a few days he could've just waited it out if you ask me

Mod: telling someone to kill themselves is serious

Blitz: I will admit that the wiki is a bit too angry.

Mod: and on my part, minefictions is...a mess and also needlessly angry

Blitz: You can say that again.

Mod: ive been trying to talk sense into the users the past week

Mod: both them and mccp handle situations terribly

Mod: that's why ive gotten active

Blitz: I wouldn't say they handle them terribly.

Blitz: Just that MCCP's users tend to freak out if anything atrocious happens.

Mod: you could put it that way

Mod: that's true though

Mod: and it's also a sign of bad adminship

Mod: if the people freak out over something that didn't even need to be freaked out over it rlly reflects poorly on their position as staff

Blitz: I suppose so.

Mod: but, in their defense, that's the same thing ive been trying to tell the ppl at minefictions

Mod: both are at fault here like i said

Blitz: I think the tensions right now are sorta like the Cold War.

Mod: haha, pretty much

Blitz: No major battles, but both sides are suspicious of the other.

Mod: and it makes it worse that they keep posting abt it and riling people up to take action when imo a non hostile discussion would fix a lot of this

Blitz: Exactly.

Blitz: We just need a negotiation.

Mod: yeppp. that's what im trying to work towards

Mod: ill say though i myself have gotten a bit too sarcastic or intense when mccp people have come over here to say stuff but i have very low tolerance for logical inconsistency and hypocrisy

Blitz: Yeah, on my part we've acted a bit foolish.

Blitz: FANDOM says we should just ignore minefictions, but I don't think that will work.

Mod: both sides NEED to agree to chill out for a while

Mod: that's what chas sort of attempted to do, he posted something similar that we should stop interacting or talking about it

Mod: a while back

Mod: so that's what ive been trying to enforce

Mod: but that's not gonna work unless both sides agree to a chill out time period

Blitz: Well, if the two wikis do negotiate, I don't think they'll want to listen to anyone from Minefictions.

Blitz: I think they'd be more willing to listen if I told them.

Mod: i can speak for minefictions. honestly i don't think the admins on mf would uh...be able to stay calm

Blitz: Yeah, I think that would work out.

Mod: but nobody knows i exist rlly and they might not trust a new person

Mod: still

Mod: that's what ive wanted to do ever since i joined in

Mod: talk it out

Blitz: Hey, do you mind if I copy the discussion and show it to MCCP?

Mod: oh no go ahead, i don't mind, but if they want to say something directly to me, let me know

Blitz: Ok.

Mod: and uh

Mod: not to boss around but id appreciate if it doesn't digress into BAN CHAS!1!1! For a lack of better words

Blitz: Ok.

Blitz: I'll copy this and show it to MCCP.

Mod: alright

Blitz: So, does that conclude our discussion?

Mod: yep. thanks for talking with me

Blitz: Alright, bye.

Mod: if you wanna talk further that's fine too

Mod: bye

Summary:

Mod and I think the two wikis should talk it out, because we're currently in a cold war. No major fighting, but a lot of talk between both sides. We just want that to end. 