Board Thread:Special Admin Messages/@comment-32555140-20181228134002/@comment-25428589-20181229084818

BlueHeart7693 wrote: I think that maybe, we should just demote inactive staff as in:

-Inactive Content Mods to nothing

- Inactive Admins the CM

- And have Inactive B-crats be demoted to CM

And yes our wiki did get promotion-raided because of the high amounts of staff. I don't want that to happen to this place too. I mean just take a look. Hood has gone inactive, Aaron is basically gone. Master isnt even active here. However, 1 B-crat can cause problems. If its only one B-rat, it has to be the most active because the following problems will occur:

. People may get jealous of their power because B-crats are basically supposed to rule the wiki and since they're the only one, they will practically own the wiki. Its a big responsibility.

. If the B-crat goes inactive, then the community has to hassle over who has to be the next one so the chosen one must be EXTREMELY active or at least active to the point where they are on every day. That's really not how a wiki should function. Wikis don't have "owners" or "rulers", they're community projects. Administrators and 'crats aren't supposed to rule the wiki. They're normal users who are trusted with extra rights in order to ensure things run smoothly. The rights aren't status symbols or something, it's essentially like being a janitor. You're trusted to clean things up, but it doesn't make you more important than anyone else. If you really think a 'crat would feel like they "own" the wiki, and that other users would be jealous, maybe you should have some serious discussions about what user rights are actually being used for here.

I'm sure you could find two people who you trust to stay active on at least the Discord even if they're not guaranteed to be active on the wiki 100% of the time. Do you really think anyone you promote would just go inactive without promoting a replacement? Plus, if there are serious issues with inactivity (unlikely) you can just contact Fandom staff about it. This issue seems fairly overblown.

BlueHeart7693 wrote: A nice community, I would say would have 3-4. RCCW recently downsized the B=crat group to 4 people. And 1-2 aint enough. Look at the biggest wikis. Creepypasta Wiki, ElderScrolls Wiki, The Roblox wiki, Encyclopedia Spongebobia. They all have 3-4 or 5-6 B-crats. Same thing with mediocre sized wikis like Minefictions have at least 5 and CFW with 4. I mean, we need to chop down staff numbers but not too much. The lack of staff is one of the most common reason of a wiki's downfall and we don't want to get too carried away with the changes. I wasn't trying to say 1-2 is always the perfect number, but it doesn't look like you actually looked into these examples. I said in my post that Creepypasta Wiki only has one. Elder Scrolls has one. Roblox Wiki has two. Encyclopedia Spongebobia has two. These all reinforce my point, really. I'm not sure what CFW is, but Minefictions has 14, which is also insanely high for such a small wiki. Only 108 of their users have contributed 5 times or more, so 13% of their users across all time are currently bureaucrats - seems a little excessive.