Thread:EnderMaster45/@comment-34414087-20181107235115/@comment-26318250-20181110210914

1. "Some of them, although not recommended, can be broken if you are an admin"

Remember this? It was a part of the rules in the past, saying that admins can bypass some rules. You should know that, as you are on MCCW for longer than I've been. You conveniently forgot about this part, sadly.

2. There was no majority. It was a massive minority compared to the whole wiki.

Yes, Pop was banned by Cutter. It was an expected reaction, considering Pop (who was, at the time, the only suspect) reported many users to Fandom. I didn't agree with the reaction, as I supported Pop's right to express herself, but I DID think it was a massively rushed reaction.

About you becoming a bureaucrat... that only happened because Cutter threatened to quit again and wanted a replacement bureaucrat. So there's that.

3. Okay, I shouldn't have mentioned you specifically. But if I recall correctly, several of the poor "abused" users got unbanned without any consulting, except among your group of supporters.

4. You could've just made a post on the forums, and I would've supported your right to express your opinions all the way through. I supported your right to express yourself when you guys rallied together against Chas, and I would've supported it there. Unfortunately, you made the stupid decision to report people instead.

"3 years ago" is a bit disingenuous, because 3 years ago murder laws without loopholes existed. But on MCCW, at the time there were available loopholes, easily exploited.

But lets consider your grand "plan" of getting justice to inactive vandals and pasta believers. Lets say Fandom listened and banned all the users you reported. Lets look at the result.

Justice - several inactive users, half of which are literal vandals and the other half are pasta believers, get "justice" in the form of their evil tormentors who left mean comments on their pages getting banned.

Byproduct - large part of the administration gets banned

Is it really worth it, to ban a large part of the administration, just to avenge some users who are not even active anymore?

There were plenty other ways you could've gone about it. Remember, I usually try to be impartial, and support(ed) your right to expressing yourself. The users who insulted others could've issued public apologies to the users who were insulted. It would've had the same effect on the insulted users - absolutely none, as they are inactive. But it would've had a much lesser impact on the general wiki.

Whenever you want to do such a drastic decision such as getting several administration users banned, it is always a good idea to consider the pros and cons of your decision. Is the payoff worth it when considering the whole wiki/community? Does the justice delivered cause more harm to the wiki than it causes good to the wiki/the user who receives justice? It's not even that you, Pop and the lot were morally wrong; it's just that your idea of delivering justice was over the top. That is the main issue we have: the way you chose to deliver justice.