Board Thread:Special Admin Messages/@comment-32555140-20181228134002/@comment-33719196-20181229002128

Underscorre wrote: Hi there, I'm not a regular contributor to this wiki (I'm a lot more involved in the original Creepypasta Wiki), but I do think you guys should consider whether you need more admins/'crats right now.

According to the list of administrators, you've already got 22 admins and 12 (!) bureaucrats. For a wiki of this size and activity level, that already seems like way too many. Having this many admins, especially inactive ones, can be a really bad thing. I don't know if you guys saw what happened at Geoshea's Creepypasta Wiki or, more recently, the Roblox Creepypasta Wiki. In both cases, having too many users with rights (especially inactive b'crats) caused major issues with mass deletions/large-scale conflict. Inactive admin accounts are incredibly appealing targets for hackers, or just for people who "grow out" of wanting to contribute here and decide to cause some damage.

Obviously I don't have any sway here, but I'd seriously advise that you guys clean out any inactive 'crats before you start promoting new ones. You can't take back b'crat rights without a community vote, it's a serious decision to promote someone to that level. I know it can be awkward to recommend the demotion of someone you're friendly with, but when you've got this much dead weight on your team, something needs to change. Really, only one or two 'crats are actually needed for a community of this size to run smoothly. At Creepypasta Wiki, a significantly larger wiki with more rules to enforce, we make do with just one b'crat, and 6 admins. I think that maybe, we should just demote inactive staff as in:

-Inactive Content Mods to nothing

- Inactive Admins the CM

- And have Inactive B-crats be demoted to CM

And yes our wiki did get promotion-raided because of the high amounts of staff. I don't want that to happen to this place too. I mean just take a look. Hood has gone inactive, Aaron is basically gone. Master isnt even active here. However, 1 B-crat can cause problems. If its only one B-rat, it has to be the most active because the following problems will occur:

. People may get jealous of their power because B-crats are basically supposed to rule the wiki and since they're the only one, they will practically own the wiki. Its a big responsibility.

. If the B-crat goes inactive, then the community has to hassle over who has to be the next one so the chosen one must be EXTREMELY active or at least active to the point where they are on every day.

A nice community, I would say would have 3-4. RCCW recently downsized the B=crat group to 4 people. And 1-2 aint enough. Look at the biggest wikis. Creepypasta Wiki, ElderScrolls Wiki, The Roblox wiki, Encyclopedia Spongebobia. They all have 3-4 or 5-6 B-crats. Same thing with mediocre sized wikis like Minefictions have at least 5 and CFW with 4. I mean, we need to chop down staff numbers but not too much. The lack of staff is one of the most common reason of a wiki's downfall and we don't want to get too carried away with the changes.